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		<title>The Retribution Paladin &#8211; Massive Pwnage and Nerf Bait</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Paladin]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[That squishing noise you hear is the the Retribution Paladin mashing your character into jello...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of us have encountered this scene in the battlegrounds (BGs:) There&#8217;s the Pally, let&#8217;s start working on him. I&#8217;tll take awhile, but&#8230;. WTF!?! (appear at spirit healer)</p>
<h4><strong>About That Squishing Noise&#8230;<br />
</strong></h4>
<p>Yes, right now is the time of the <em>Retribution Paladin</em>. They&#8217;re lean, mean, squishing machines laying waste to anyone who stands in their way. I don&#8217;t play a Pally, my 40 is collecting dust right now, but I&#8217;ve been on the receiving end of a few of them in the BGs. It&#8217;s not bad if I can land a <em>dismantle</em> and they don&#8217;t bubble, but otherwise? I&#8217;ve never been slaughtered quite so quickly.</p>
<p>Not that I know what I&#8217;m doing, but sheesh.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of two minds on this, especially for long time players. For ages Pallies have been underpowered in some areas and the subject of much complaining from their fans (and which class hasn&#8217;t?) so it&#8217;s kinda cool that they are now the destruction/murder machine of choice. On the other hand, since I play a Rogue&#8230; <img src='http://azerothcookbook.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My kid has been playing Paladins and Warriors since the original beta, claims they are his favorite classes, and has complained about their damage and abilities for as long as he&#8217;s been playing them. I tease him about being a masochist, since those <em>are</em> his classes of choice and their damage has traditionally been &#8230;lacking. I&#8217;ve also been kidding him about how he must hate the current situation with the Ret. Pally running roughshod over everything.</p>
<p>Word has it that in the <em>Wrath of the Lich King</em> beta test characters were balancedÂ for level 80, but that too little testing was done at the lower levels. The call from dead and envious players, since the 3.0 patch on the 14th, has been heard and the official word is that the nerf is coming (which will make my kid happy. I think. )</p>
<p>Supposedly the nerf is going to clip the <em>burst damage,</em> but will leave longer term DPS about the same. We&#8217;ll see. Buffs and nerfs (and patches) usually have their fair share of unintended side-effects.</p>
<h4>So What&#8217;s the Word?</h4>
<p>This post pretty much covers what the fuss is about:</p>
<blockquote style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir="ltr"><p><a href="http://honorscode.blogspot.com/2008/10/retribution-paladins-fair-and-balanced.html">Retribution Paladins: Fair and Balanced</a> &#8211; So I tried my hand as a Retribution Paladin this weekend. I had heard all the complaints about how overpowered Retribution was at the moment, so I thought I would get some first hand experience for myself. &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>WoWinsider </strong>notes the the coming changes are aimed at PvP Paladins and will leave PvE pretty much (in theory) unchanged. It also has a Ret build for PvE types.Â I&#8217;m going to log into my rust coveredÂ Pally right now and playÂ with them for aÂ few.</p>
<blockquote style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir="ltr"><p><a href="http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/10/17/patch-3-0-2-primer-for-retribution-paladins/">Patch 3.0.2 primer for Retribution Paladins</a> &#8211; Retribution deals so much pain that we&#8217;ve sent the rest of player base running to Ghostcrawler crying for a nerf. And we&#8217;re getting nerfed. To the ground. Don&#8217;t panic. The changes are really, mostly aimed at PvP Paladins &#8212; okay, &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Movie time</strong> &#8211; Pally testing from the 3.02 patch:</p>
<blockquote style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir="ltr"><p><a href="http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=92337">Mp 3.0.2 patch paladin retribution Overpowered ?</a> &#8211; Category: PvP Summary: My paladin testing out patch 3.0.2 and retribution paladins are pretty overpowered. *&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s a good analysis of the Ret Paladin from <strong>Blessings of Kings</strong>:</p>
<blockquote style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir="ltr"><p><a href="http://blessingofkings.blogspot.com/2008/10/are-retribution-paladins-overpowered.html">Are Retribution Paladins Overpowered?</a> &#8211; Half the challenge of playing a Ret paladin is actually getting to melee range. It&#8217;s not like Retribution can Charge or Stealth or Death Grip. If a player lets a Ret paladin get in range, she has already lost half the battle. &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Zuggy </strong>(a hardcore PvPer) has some blue posts on Blizzard&#8217;s thoughts about the incoming nerfs:</p>
<blockquote style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir="ltr"><p><a href="http://wow.zuggaming.com/2008/10/15/retribution-paladin-nerfs-incoming/">Retribution Paladin Nerfs Incoming</a> &#8211; There&#8217;s no denying that retribution paladins are insanely overpowered and fortunately (or unfortunately depending&#8230;) the nerf stick was officially confirmed earlier this evening. While there are some needed changes to the class to &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>And <strong>SpoonCraft </strong>has details on some of the specific nerfs:</p>
<blockquote style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir="ltr"><p><a href="http://www.spooncraft.com/breaking-news/wotlk/retribution-paladin-changes-coming-soon-oct-17th/">Retribution Paladin Changes Coming Soon (Oct. 17th)</a> &#8211; As I stated yesterday, we are happy with Retâ€™s PvE damage and sustatined damage in PvP, but were concerned that the burst damage in PvP could be too high. We discussed this for literally hours yesterday, which was certainly not the &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>So what are your thoughts on the Retribution Pallies and their current or upcoming states?</p>
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